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That site, your apparent favorite of the two, over-sensors posts, claiming to be "cleaning up the mess", when in fact they delete posts which are relevant to the topic at hand. I've also been banned at least 3 times for bullshit reasons. Some of the members over there are nice people, open minded and all. But I'm sorry, there are too many low-intelligence childish folks over there, including some moderators, and they stifle the reasonable people. I've given up on that place, it's a waste of my time. As long as the moderators can just ban you for whatever they feel like, and as long as AMS is a sponsor (owner) of that forum, then new members (new Z owners) will be misguided and miss out on much great Z knowledge. There, I did it without name calling, happy?

"I'm glad I have the MSP mani's." - jschrauwen 22:20:13 06/10/08"...Downpipes own. They own everything...anything...all there ever was and will be...they should be stock on all cars. Screw the environment, emissions, noise! I love them...I shall name my first-born after them with glee..." - SeedyRom 05:13:20 10/03/02 "i love the cock" - genic 22:20:47 09/25/03 "I hope you get fucked in the ass with a pringles can." - ni[X]it 14:53:53 02/02/06 "Either ignore him or beat him up. Anything else will be over his head." - Marshall 12:28:23 08/18/04 "i've got to the point where i can drive the Z at its limits and i want more" - shadowZ 16:29:56 08/31/04 "I was way more timid then than I am now about getting in there and yanking on things." - TT XTZ 13:30:34 07/25/05 "Just ran out to get some knee pads. I'm ready now... BRING.....IT.....ON... :-) " - Dave N 19:04:30 10/31/07
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